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|0800-Number Bust!
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Uploaded to NFA's "The Big Hard One" BBS - 01162 661610
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On Tuesday evening I called Rocky (Sysop of Citadel BBS) At 19:40 hrs.
As soon as I called him my wife said "Theres 2 blokes walking up the
path to the house, are you expecting anyone?" I Said "No,If theres a
problem give me a shout". No sooner had I said it and started to chat
to Rocky my wife said "You better get out here quick!". I dropped the
telephone and ran to the hall..... I saw 3 suited men standing in my
hall !!!.
One of them said "I am detective Constable ??????? and I am arresting
you for fraudulent use of electricity" I told them to get out of my
house before I throw you out.!!! With that, one of the detectives got
his badge out and flashed it in my face! I said "I dont care who you
are, show me a warrant or I'me throwing you through the door"(made of
glass!!!) They radio'd for uniformed backup when I saidthat....I then
said "before they get here, you're out of here,if you dontget out of
here NOW, I'me throwing you out THROUGH the door!!!" With thisthey could
tell that I was serious.....and they walked out the door.
I walked out of the door straight after them, closing it on the way, and
said "ok then, lets go!". With that, I was arrested and taken in a car
toa Police Station. I didnt say anything until my brief arrived and
advisedme what to say. In the meantime....I was banged up in a cell for
2 hours!
When my brief arrived I spoke to her in a private booth,she asked me
what I had done and told her the TRUTH. That I had been using 0800
numbers and obtaining free calls!. She advised me to say that I was
given the number from a friend of mine that worked for British Telecom,
and that I was not told that I was committing a criminal act by using
them!.I also said that I was not willing to give them his name as he was
a friend,I would say no more than that because I didn't want him to lose
his job!
It was pointed out to me that what I was doing was committing "FRAUD".
FRAUD is an offence that you must inform all future employers of! This
is a very serious offence.(though I was only using an 0800 number) FRAUD
was still the crime! I said that I was sorry for using it, but was not
aware that I was breaking any laws!, as a person who works for British
Telecom gave me it! I said that the number was given to me by him so i
must have had permission!It was then pointed out that unless I was given
permission by the person who pays the bill, I was not authorised. I
again said that I was sorry but I didn't know this.
The British Telecom Investigation Manager then took over the
questioning. He introduced himself as Mr Adrian Gorham, British Telecom
Investigation Manager. He went on to say that these numbers had been
put on there only for British Telecom employees, who had been given
permission to use them in carrying out they're duties! He said a lot of
things........
1. The numbers were put out on 6 Feb 95.
2. The numbers were 0800 252 495 and 0800 526 192.
3. Both of these numbers have been traced since they were put on!
4. Anyone who has used this number, has had a trace put on their line!
5. There are 5 arrests being made tonight, The night I was arrested!
6. I was recieving calls every night for the previos 3 weeks that were
also using the numbers.
7. He told me EVERY 0800 number that I had dialled since 21 Nov
94!(six)
8. He had a list of BBS's that I had called using these numbers.
9. He said He knew that the majority of the calls to my number were
used with a modem!
I could go on a lot more than that, This bloke wasn't asking me anything
he was telling me!!! He had every call I made since 21 Nov 94 in front
of him(4 inches thick) it looked something like this...
No. Dialled Destination Time Duration Cost
08002524950*90206392772# address! 18.30 35 2.95
08002524950*90206392772# address! 19.12 21 2.30
08002524950*90206392772# address! 19.45 78 4.87
etc. etc. etc. 50 lines at least on a page and a stack 4 inches
thick!
This bloke had done his homework, and I dont think for a minute that him
calling round my house was a rush job, this had been planned in advance!
He also had my brothers number, He asked me if I recognised it? He told
me that my brother was using the number as well!He showed me a number of
numbers and told me that they were also using the number! I said that
as soon as I got home I would be calling these people and telling them
that you are monitoring there numbers and they wont use 0800 numbers
again!
He told me that if they used them they would be getting a visit! I
think he was serios, he had no reason not to be! He then asked what I
intended to do about all the calls that I had made through the 0800
numbers?
I told him that because an employee of British Telecom gave them to me I
thought that I could use the numbers and not pay!If I had known that all
the calls were going to be charged I wouldnt have used the phone so much
and that I was not prepared to pay for the calls that I had made!
The interview then finished. I was then released on unconditional bail
until 3 May 95. I have to return to the Police Station then. In the
mean time,this gives the Police and British Telecom 6 weeks to put their
case together.
I am facing the following charges.....
1. Having FRAUD against my name for life.
2. A fine imposed by the courts for FRAUDULENT USE OF ELECTRICITY.
3. British Telecom Demanding their money back (through the court).
For all the calls that I have made through the 0800 numbers.
What was a bit of fun has turned a lot WORSE!!!!
At the end of the day, I did not have my equipment taken! only due to
my forcefulness when they came into my house!I know that there are a lot
of you out there still living with your parents! this could be
embarrassing for them (neighbours) as it would be for you. (We all know
what parents are like......yes officer, come in, yes my lad does have a
computer, yes officer he's on it now in the bedroom........) I think you
know what I'm saying. You havn't a leg to stand on, at least I did!
To finish,
I can honestly say that I will not be using another 0800 number for the
rest of my life, I cannot afford to be seen to KNOWINGLY use one of
these numbers again after being done for it previously.
To all of you out there who are worrying about the numbers you have used
i can only advise you of this.....
If you havnt been caught yet,stop using it.!In 6 months you can use them
again for a little while..BUT,if you get caught this time round you will
not be able to do it again the same as me!!
I have been told by the British Telecom Investigation Manager that those
0800 numbers are being monitored at this moment!, they are not going to
pull the plug on them, as long as people are using them and they can get
more arrests they will!!!!
There are 6 numbers that they are monitoring, at least, because they are
the ones I have been using!!!!! At the end of the day you are the only
one who has to decide what to do! But, my advice is.... STAY OFF THEM
.... COME BACK ANOTHER DAY!!
BE SAFE.....NOT SORRY.
Anyone wanting to chat about it can call me on 01206392772 nup - max
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